Re: The Left Gets a Memo? by Michael Kinsley

Michael,

Well, I read your article, Michael and wow, that was a great adolescent whine. We aren't "paranoid extremists", most of us knew we were lied to, we are justified now with this memo (which are actually minutes.)

You really should check with the London Times before you submit such a ridiculous editorial, they posted new memos the same morning of your editorial.

Including Downing Street Memo II, which is MUCH more incriminating than the first one.

In case you haven't been there, all new documents are on Raw Story and on the following:

• Ministers were told of need for Gulf War 'excuse'
• Cabinet Office Paper: Conditions for military action
• Washington confronts memogate
• Have US media been too cautious reporting Iraq?

Just in case you are unaware of the news, the ministers were told of a need for them to creat an excuse for war. Hello? This is KILLING people!

Back to your "whine". Just to let you know.... C is the head of MI6 - Sir Richard Dearlove, which you would have known if you did a little bit of research. That's what the Brits call that office. We knew that, why didn't you?

You said: "But even on its face, the memo is not proof that Bush had decided on war. It states that war is “now seen as inevitable” by “Washington.” That is, people other than Bush had concluded, based on observation, that he was determined to go to war. There is no claim of even fourth-hand knowledge that he had actually declared this intention. Even if “Washington” meant administration decision-makers, rather than the usual freelance chatterboxes, C was only saying that these people believed that war was how events would play out."

Usual freelance chatterboxes? Um, the memo said: "“The NSC had no patience with the UN route.” in the very same paragraph. Are you calling Condoleeza Rice a "Chatterbox"?

And you obviously didn't read the second page of the memo.

“The Foreign Secretary [Jack Straw] said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided.”

Now you say that "everyone knew" we were intending to go to war with Iraq (well some of us "paranoid extremists" (how dare you!) did know he was planning on it actually, like Amy Goodman) but Bush said ""I've not made up our mind on military action." Grammatical mistakes aside, (because he never speaks right), he said this over and over as he was PLANNING the war with BLAIR and this was two weeks before we decided to go to war, and at that very time we were BOMBING Iraq, illegally, to try and goad Saddam into war, and had been for 1 and a 1/2 months before then!

Point of fact, Bush and Blair discussed going to war with Iraq 9 days after 9/11. Where was the LA Times coverage on THAT?

In fact, Bush dreamed about invading Iraq before he was even president. If you check Raw Story you will see the time line and what happened WHEN. He said he wanted to invade Iraq in 1999.

I'm getting so sick and tired of lazy and sycophantic journalism. That my friends and I now have to turn to foreign sources to find out what is REALLY going on, what the TRUTH is, is a testimony to the lack of journalistic integrity in the corporate controlled media now. You and your fellow press corp that indulge in such shenanigans should be ashamed of yourself. You have abandoned your duty to be the 4th estate, your journalistic reputation, and your dedication to the TRUTH.

Benito Mussolini said that Fascism: "should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.

Who holds the purse strings of the LA Times?

Goebells said:
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Do you really want to help in the facilitation of Fascism??? Because you ARE. Look into your soul, Mr. Kinsley, and stop lying. Or at least stop buying the lies. Our Democracy depends on the integrity of journalism, it's our first amendment, and I expect the truth from our media, and shouldn't expect anything less... (and yes I wrote to Time as well.)

Retract and Recant!

Joy Williams